Does infinity + 1 = Bo Jackson?

Hello, everyone. Welcome back to Buy Amara. This is a weekly news show where I discuss contemporary events in art and history fields.

I'm your host and personal curator, Amara Andrew. So this week if you're watching this right now, you can tell that it is totally different than other weeks. I have in-studio my special lovely co-host and live-in lover, Geoff Saros.

So he's going to be helping me. This is actually going to be a totally different show. So just get ready for that I guess.

We're trying something a little different to see what happens. So we have all that and more coming up on this episode of Buy Amara. Let's get to it.

Well, that went away quickly. So, like I said, this is a very different episode. We're actually going to have We're not going to be talking about contemporary events in art and history field per se.

We are going to be getting into some philosophical ideologies and debates. We will be doing some fun history-related games and we'll just see where this goes. So, how are you doing today, Sir Geoffrey?

Well, we just want to have fun with it. Change it up a little bit and I thought I think this was going to be This is going to be interesting. It's going to be something.

It's going to be an experiment for us. Experiment. He's already started.

Well, yeah, an experiment is how I would say it. Experiment. But, and also I'm like gripping this.

I'm used to using an arm, like I need to hold the microphone. Yeah, if you're just listening to this, you really should watch it because he is doing some wild things already. What?

But yeah, when'd you say how am I feeling? Yeah, how are you doing? Oh, yeah, so last week on Buy Amara, I was dying of illness.

I feel so much better right now. I'm still very tired, so it's been It's been a little difficult to get back into the rhythm of things, which is also why we're trying something a little bit different, just because mentally I can't seem to focus on stuff right now. So, that's why we're just We're just going to try to make this like a fun sort of thing.

We'll probably be back to We'll probably oscillate between these two types of episodes where I have like the heavy hitting news things when my brain is finally back, but right now it's been a little bit of a struggle. So, anyway, how are you doing? Well yeah, I'm doing a lot better than I was.

So, you know this, but I couldn't get my brains going either, which was a challenge. And, sorry, I'm I'm so used to running the audio that I'm just like looking, "Is everything okay down there?

Is everything okay, Craigy?" "Is that okay, Craigy?" but yeah, so I started reading some entrepreneurial books that I'm always usually reading, but when I'm not feeling well, I am not reading much, and I needed to get my brain sort of, clicking in again. What are some of those books?. Duh.

So, the Rice and Beans Millionaire, which I could I don't, like, highly recommend. It was fine. It was more story-driven and it was like a sit down and read it for an hour.

It was something that I was I saw someone tweet about it, I was like, "I'll give it a little give it a goog and read it." But A goog? That sounds disgusting. But yeah, it was it sort of got me back to, just sort of firing a little bit and then I started reading the Million Dollar Consultant.

And then it just turned off. Yeah, then everything's gone. I am just a mindless I am just a mindless husk of a man.

But that's why I love him. But yeah, how are you feeling? So, reading helped me.

That's good. But, you just said you're still not clicking. Reading and caffeine, I do need to say.

Yeah. That was the other thing. We have been Normally we make coffee.

There's the thumbnail. Normally we make coffee in house, but lately we've been getting Well, he's been getting something super extra, which I would normally make fun of, but it's just very funny to see. But we've been getting Starbucks Cold Brew.

So, I still can't really taste anything. I can smell some stuff now, which is really cool. But I, honestly, I can't really smell him anymore.

I can't smell anything anymore, which is kind of good and kind of really not good. I'd rather be able to smell things. But anyways, so coffee tastes atrocious to me, which is so sad because that's like one of my favorite things to drink is coffee.

I love the flavor of it, and it just, like, I don't know, makes me happy. So now all my happiness is gone. So, instead so, we've been trying, Starbucks Cold Brew, and, well, it was his idea.

Well, because it's a lot more, pungent. It's It has a lot more. But, you know, so, pungent maybe isn't the right word.

Starbucks will not sponsor us now. But yeah, just the flavor of it is deliberately very strong. Yes.

And I noticed that the nice Dark Matter coffee that I loved up until the day we left on the trip and then subsequently got sick doesn't taste that good at all. It tastes sort of like bad coffee. So, Starbucks Cold Brew has been the move, and I've been getting one that is very big, and he's getting the largest size, the Trenta.

It is hilarious. And I don't normally do that much caffeine, but I've needed it to spark things, which has helped. Does it spark joy?

It sparks my brain to function. Ooh, that's joy. But, it really is though, because I've had great conversations and it's not excuse me.

It is not only because of the caffeine, but everything together has like gotten me out of that fog, which I think is important. Yeah, that's good. But, now I'm not there.

Yeah, you're still working on it, and I think part of it too is eating. Well, and he was sicker longer than I was. Yeah, and I also hadn't really been eating for a little bit.

I am now, but yeah, I just I got to get back to normal. Well, it's also difficult when things don't have a good taste. Things taste disgusting.

Like, there are very few things that actually taste good, and, unfortunately, it's all carbs and sugars that taste Like, I can't taste things, but I can taste like the essence of it, if it makes literally no fucking sense when I'm trying to explain it to him, but it's like I don't taste the flavors. Like, we had hot dogs the other night, and we get like really high-quality good ones, and it tastes disgusting.

It was like sweet and sour. It was so weird. It tastes like everything's like rotten, almost.

I don't know. It's It sucks, 'cause I love food. Well, and I think that's the thing.

Is It's the sour, the salty and the sugar, the sweet. Those are the three things that you can get. Yeah.

So, we're trying to I say we're trying to. We need to try to have things that have no essence of sour at all. Yes.

Because when they do, they do taste bad. Yeah, I tried kimchi. I tried hot dogs.

It's like all my favorite Like, I normally, I love sour stuff. Like, I like really bitter, tart, like gross things. Like, I really like it.

Now, I don't, so. What does that say about me? You like bitter, sour, gross things?

Where are we going with this, exactly? I mean, we're saying you have no taste and then I'm also your person. Oh, no.

Got to love them. Anyway, so I want to start, just get right into this next part. So, let me let me play my little intro music.

I also haven't figured out what is going to be the intro music to what. So, let's get to the next part of this show.

Hi. The name of that song is Oregano, which is one of the things that I can taste and smell. I was just going to ask, but yeah, that is something you can smell.

That's what's weird. Yo- You're getting some smell back, but not the taste that goes corresponds with it. It's very weird.

It sucks. So, curry. Smell it.

Smell it 100%. Can't fucking taste it. Yeah.

And I love curry. Oh, my god. Anyway, so this next part of the show is going to be called, "Would You Rather?" oh.

So, in this part of the show, sorry, my armpit's a little itchy. I don't wear shirts anymore, so they're itchy. This part of the show is called, "Would You Rather?" And in this segment, I am asking my best friend Geoff what he would rather do.

Aw, a little hug. For those who are listening, he just hugged me and kissed my shoulder, and it was very sweet. But in this part of the segment or in this part of the What?

Sorry. I just I hugged you and kissed your shoulder, and you just gave me a claw grip on my shoulder. I'm sorry.

I'm trying to think of what I'm going to say next, so I can't multitask, people. It's like a vice. So, on this segment, it's "Would You Rather?" So, I'm just asking Geoff a random ass "Would You Rather?" question.

I love these questions because I think, you know, it can kind of show people psyche. So, like in my business meeting, which I'm not going to talk about it in every fucking episode, but it's one of the things that I try to ask my clients in every single shoot is a "Would You Rather?" question, 'cause I think it's really interesting.

You get to see even I know a lot of people think it's really stupid when they do it. I think it's fascinating because you really get to learn someone's personality. Not all of it, but enough.

You get to learn the person a little bit more. So. Well yeah, and it's like a philosophical question at its core.

Even if it's very even if it's silly. There is a philosophy to it and also this chair keeps making sounds and I'm like, "Ugh, this is not me." And by chair he means his butt cheeks.

Anyway, so this week's "Would You Rather?" So, this week I would like to ask you, Jeffrey, Jeff for short, would you rather forget all your prior memories or never be able to create new ones ever again? Eesh. Yeah.

Would I rather lose all of my memories We're starting hard. Yeah. Or not be able to create new ones?

So essentially, do you treasure your past memories so much, or are you okay with just starting fresh from this point? So, right now you would essentially have your memory Men In Black'ed, so just gone, but then now you'll start to remember everything. So, I'll have to tell you who I am, where we live, what we're doing, what we're doing right now.

Oh no, it already happened. Wow, so that is difficult because That's the point. Yeah, I don't think that dwelling on the past and living in the past is a good thing..

And you know this, you know this one is a difficult one, yeah, That's why I asked this one. That I think moving forward is what's important. But Oh, be turning down the volume on that.

I think our light moved a little. But, our memories and everything we've learned and experienced is what makes us who we are. So, I almost have a follow-up question to it, which I know there isn't an answer, but Oh, there is.

Okay. Maybe. Would I still be the person I am, or would my new memories form a new version of me?

That's the that's sort of a conundrum there. Your new memories would for sure form a new you, because you wouldn't have the prior knowledge or thoughts from before to really inform you. Like, you'll have your core you in there, but What's the core you?

Well, that's the thing. Like, you'll have you'll be you. You might not even remember how to fucking talk.

Like, I don't know, 'cause yeah, all your prior memories, That's a good quandary. So, you would be a totally different Should we say that we keep skills? Maybe we keep like, fundamentals.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But, like memories of like when we met or when we just were in Vegas or whatever, gone. But, we would create new memories together in the future.

So, I would I think I would caveat it that if I'm still me, like my capabilities, like I'm not starting from basically an infant. If I'm starting from who I am, You just look at me like, "Eh." and I'm not I'm not learning how to speak, and walk, and run, and jump, and all the most important things, running and jumping. Yes.

Yeah, like you have Like, you can still run your business and everything, but it's like the like memories with your parents growing up or memories with your friends, or now your best friend, or all those different things. So, it would be difficult, but for me, I think as long as I'm starting from my baseline,. And I'm making new memories, I think I'd have to go with the new memories path.

Interesting. What do you think for you? I think now talking through it I honestly, I didn't even think about my answer.

I think talking through it, I also talked myself into making the new memories, because I feel like I could just kind of get rid of all the old ones or have people tell me stories of things or like their memories, and then I can add it to my memory bank. And there are there are photos and videos and things that you can reflect on.

Exactly. Yeah, there's documentation and first-person accounts of different things that I've been involved in or whatever that I can get from other people. But I would rather same, like, which is funny, and it's perfect because he is very much futurist, computer scientist, like always focused on He's doing silly things if you're listening to this with his face.

But, he's very focused on the future and, like, the now and mostly just the now. But I am focused on the past 'cause historianship and all that wonderful fun stuff, so I'm very I'm always focused in the past. Sorry, I thought you said historian shit, so that's why I had a little chuckle.

Historian shit. I should make that into a sticker. So it's always funny when we talk about these certain things, because we come at it from such different perspectives, but a lot of times we actually end up at the same point, but just very different ways that we get there.

So anyway, I think I would prefer to yeah, be able to make new memories, because if you can't, then I mean, presumably hopefully I will live for at least another 30 years if not more. So, I couldn't imagine just going forward and not making any more memories, 'cause that just feels really bleak. I almost feel like, yeah, I could kind of do away with the rest of it, because then, too, I get to like learn people again for the first time, which maybe if you have a grudge with somebody, you can just kind of like and then just like start fresh or I don't know.

I mean, I don't think I have Well, whatever. We're not going to get into that. But, Yeah, I think I would rather I would rather I would much rather be able to create new ones, I think, just personally as well.

Yeah, I think that's important. It's just as long as you have that base, because if we say we both lost everything,. We wouldn't be the same people.

Like if we were both just no memories and completely different people, then that changes the future memories as well. Yeah. So like I want to be on this path with you.

Aw. And for like, truly. I mean I know it's like serious for this, but like I truly want to be on this path, so.

So you can be crying on my own show. As long as I'm not going to lose that, Oh yeah. Then I would go new memories.

Yeah, as long as we will be the same people, then yeah, for sure.. Yeah, I think as long as one as long as we both don't lose all of our memories. It's like, who the fuck are you, and where am I?

Then we could just It would be like 50 First Dates where we could just have like a whole video compilation of like, "Okay, here's what I know from our time together. So, just FYI." Okay, question. Oh.

This is going to be a long episode, ladies and gentlemen. Presumably, 50 First Dates continued, Yes. Presumably, I have thought about that so much.

So now we're 20 years after that movie or more. Yeah. So now, it's 100 First Dates.

But, Oh wait, no, they got married. It's a VHS tape, because she wakes up in that time period and puts the tape in. Yeah.

Does he have to maintain a supply of VHS players and analog TVs and tapes, because she won't know what a DVD is, which is already old, and then she won't know, "Click on the Click the mouse." It's like, "What is this? Like, what is this screen?" Yeah, like if she got this laptop, she'd be like, "What the fuck is this?" Like, that's weird.

Well, I think they even had a child. So like, She woke up, she was pregnant, and being like, "What the fuck?" Yeah. If you're not too happy with that, which I'd be like, "What did you do?" but yeah, it's very interesting..

Anyway, so, yeah, those are our answers. Now onto the next segment. Does the next one have a food name that you can smell?

It's Tropicália Do Norte. So, yes. I don't know.

No. Anyway, time for the next segment. I'll get better with these transitions.

I really like that one. I feel like I would just listen to that while cooking or something.. So, our next segment is, "What the Fuck Is This?" So, this is going to be a new segment where I ask Geoff, "What the fuck is this?" I'm going to show him an image.

Oh, no. On my So, this is a new What have I done? This is a new segment, so I'm showing Geoff something odd from history and he has to figure out what the fuck is this.

I mean, that's better than a photo of like a turd in the corner of the bathroom, and you're like, "What the fuck is this?" And you're like, "I'm so sorry. I didn't think you'd see it. I thought I'd wake up before you." So, don't look at my computer screen yet, 'cause I need to pull it up.

I am showing Geoff this on my laptop. Okay, so if you're watching this, it's up here, so you can see what it is. And you can see what Geoff is seeing.

And if you're listening to this, we'll just paint you a little word picture. So, Geoff, what do you see right now?

Intentions. Oh, shit. I just Hold on, don't look.

No, it's all good. I'm not looking at anything else. Okay.

So, what we're looking at is, I don't know if the word is a brooch, but it looks sort of like a pin at the top, like a metal pin that you would wear. Except Also, whenever you say metal, if you just do the metal horns, it's makes everything much more fun. So, I do that all the time.

Metal horns, I don't even know if you put your first finger and your pinky up. You do this. Metal.

Metal. Okay, so, it is like a metal brooch looking thing that you would maybe wear on your shirt with long chains, like we're talking chains that are 8, 9 inches long, 6 inches, whatever, I don't know how long it is. That makes me think of the joke where it's like, ask a woman what's 6 inches and ask a man what's 6 inches.

I know, right? Anyway. I don't know how big it is.

On the screen, it's smaller than my hand, so we'll say that. That is true. You don't have a good sense of scale, but you're doing a good job.

Yeah. But it is different types of chains, what presumably are chains, with what seems like a charm at the bottom. And this is me going down a path of this is jewelry, but jewelry for It almost looks like something is representing a paintbrush, but it's clearly not a paintbrush.

It looks like there's a whistle, it looks like there's a needly kind of thing, and a mace, the top of a mace. So, my guess is a brooch that makes no sense. Is that your final answer?

I don't want it to be, because I know it's not, but I don't really have a better reason a better what for what this could be. Okay, cool. So, that's a yes.

So, what you just saw, my dear Jeffrey, sorry I keep calling you Jeffrey. I know you hate it. So, this is called a chatelaine, and you were basically, exactly correct.

Woah. So, that's what it is. It's way bigger than it looked.

So, there are varying different sizes. This is a decorative belt hook or clasp. I'm just going to tell you very briefly what it is and a little bit of the history.

So it was worn at the waist. It could also be worn like on a lapel or not a lapel, but like on your chest or something like that, and it has a series of chains suspended from it. See, you were correct.

Good job. Your eyes did not deceive you. And suspended from it would be a variety of different everyday kind of helpful things.

So, this I actually had no idea that it's ancient. So like ancient Roman women would wear it, and they'd have like a lot of different hygienic sort of things, like tweezers hanging from it and like various different things. There's also like the ear scoop, which is how you clean out wax.

It's just like a little spoon, and you clean out your earwax. It's really cute. And also to make your matcha.

Yes, exactly. Yeah, matcha and earwax, that was like ancient Roman, that's how they got shit done. So, on this, though, so, started in ancient times, various different cultures and societies had these, which is really interesting.

Then the one that I'm showing you right now is from the Victorian period. So, here is like a little mirror hanging from it, some eyeglasses, a thimble, a whistle, a watch, just various different things that you would need everyday. So, let's see.

So, I actually I just wanted to compare it to something more current. Yes. It's essentially a Swiss Army knife.

That's exactly what I thought you would say first. Okay, yeah, it's like the same concept. Of a bunch of little tools, even though these are enormous.

Like, they're small tools, but this piece is This piece goes from her hip to probably her knee. It is that long. Yeah, and it can change in size as well, so that one's like a little less big, but it's still pretty sizeable.

So in the 19th century though, these were actually a show of wealth and kind of like display for the main woman of the house.. So, the woman of the house would often wear this and have keys attached to them, so they would be in charge of the pantry, chests that had like priceless items in them, so like anything that had a lock on it, the woman would hold the key, so she would be literally the head of the household.

So then like cooks, delivery people, servants, they would have to go to the woman to get the key for whatever, and then also she had like, yeah, like a whistle. Good eye, 'cause that was actually a thing. There really was a whistle.

Wow. Yeah, so, yeah, so she'd just be the point of contact with this entire thing, so these are I would assume very heavy because they are all metal, it looks like, so, Yeah. We do that literally all the time.

So yes, you that is a chatelaine, so actually, great job, you identified it properly. Yeah, so. That is interesting, because it is like a Swiss Army knife or whatever.

There might be a term beyond Swiss Army knife, I know that's a brand now, but Utility knife or whatever? Yeah, something, but yeah, they'll have like a toothpick and tweezers or I have the one that I got back when I worked a job so a long, long time ago, but it was all computer things, so like Torx. Like Torx bits and different things that you only need in computers, but.

Yeah, that's interesting and I like also the Dungeon Master vibe of you have like instead of a key ring, you are wearing the keys and it's like, "Well, that's who we need." I really like it. Bring it back. Woah, mine might be going.

Woah. All right, so that was that segment. I guess I don't need to announce it, I can just play the music.

On to the next.

I like having a sip of my, Mojito? Yeah, my What is it? What are these?

Why am I blanking? Kefir? Probiotic?

Or prebiotic? Kefir. Water kefir mojito every time you play the music..

But this time I talked about it, so I didn't drink it during the music.

There you go. You got to drink it while listening. So, the next segment that I want to do is called big questions.

I'm very great with naming, aren't I? So I mean, it makes sense to me. Good.

Well, this past week we watched a really fascinating documentary on Netflix called A Trip to Infinity. And Geoff's face says it all. It's very good.

Do you want to describe it? No, you go for it. Okay, well, I was hoping you would want to.

Oh, okay, I can. No, I'm just teasing. I mean, basically the whole premise of it is just, mathematicians, experts, physicists, all these various really brilliant people Oh, variousists, I was going to say, but that's not really.

These brilliant people talking about the concept of infinity, and I had never So first, I guess I want to ask had you ever thought of infinity before watching this documentary? Did you say the title, too, A Trip to Infinity? I think that's what it was called on Netflix.

Very good, highly recommended, but very heady. It's really good. So, I've I've thought about I think about weird things.

That's why he likes me. So, I've definitely thought about infinity, especially because, like, math and science and computer stuff is everything I did and do. So, there's a lot that I think about.

Because also as like programming and stuff, infinity does play a role. So, like I've thought about infinity, but it's also so unknowable that it's mind bending, which I love. I love mind-bending things.

But, I haven't thought about it in the ways they presented it in the documentary,. Which is which is a sign of to me a great documentary 'cause it makes me expand my mind.. To infinity and beyond.

Thanks, Buzz. Yeah, we should have put that in there. What the hell?

So, I think I know the answer, but how many times a day did you think about infinity before watching that? Literally none. Like, I had never thought about the concept of infinity ever.

Like, it's something that you know exists, or does it? Ooh. That's something that they talk about in the documentary and it's It's really fascinating.

Like, I want to explain it, but I don't want to ruin anything, because as they kept going, it just like unpeeled like a little onion and it was really fascinating. Well, you have to want to watch it. Like, we would never recommend like this isn't a an assignment like you must watch this, but if you're interested, it's going to hook you.

And like I told No, we kept pausing it and having these really heady discussions about various different things that they talked about, and it was really good. And I then was like, "Well, now I'm down this rabbit hole and I want to learn more." 'Cause then they start talking about space, and like outer space, not just our physical proximity to each other, but just literally outer space and how the galaxy is seemingly infinite, but then it also might not be, it might actually be curved.

It was It's not like an earth is flat kind of thing. It's very Well, no, but just the concept of, spacetime and how it how there can be a curvature to say a galaxy, so just like on Earth, if you start walking one direction, if you don't in theory, if you could walk all the way around the Earth, you would think it's infinite, because you can walk forever.

So in theory, Yeah, there you go. The galaxy could do the same thing, because spacetime is bent around gravity, like all these different things.. And they don't get so deep into anything that it's impossible to watch.

No. But, they touch on They get sufficiently deep that gives you more questions than answers. Yeah.

Which is what it is. I like that at one point we stopped, and you were just like, "Why do we even need to know about infinity?" And not like judgy, but just a curiosity. Like, I mean, you could ask, why do we need to know anything?

Which I always think is a really valid question. But, yeah. Why do we need to know that this even exists?

If it's something that has perplexed all of these brilliant people throughout history, like, and we can't really know the answer, why do we need to know it then essentially? Which I think is valid, but I also think it's really interesting to know why this exists, 'cause it's just There's kind of no point, but that's the point.

Well, also if no one is pushing on these questions, Yeah. We're not going to get anywhere, because that is the thing. We need to be We don't know what we don't know, which is like such an overused phrase, but it is for a reason, because we genuine Like, you wouldn't know There's so many I don't even I can't even pick anything.

Like, just everything. A computer, a phone, a cell phone, all these things, like radio waves, like until we knew how to create and harness them, we didn't know that would be feasible. And now it's just like normal, you grab your cell phone and go online.

It's like, we're not plugged into anything.. But then also to plug into something at one point was novel. Like it just everything is just infinitely deep, as they say.

But one of the things I just wanted to give a representation of how mind blowing it is, just one specific thing. 1 + 1 = 2 or 1 + 2 = 3. Okay, so you can know that's true.

But what does infinity + 1 =? Infinity + 1 That broke my brain. Infinity + 1 = infinity.

Same. You can add infinity. You can add to infinity, but it's still infinity.

But then when you actually do the algebra of that equation, infinity + 1 = infinity it works out to be 1 = 0, which is impossible. Which is how we see infinity. Like, we can math the universe and all these things, but as soon as you get to infinity, everything breaks, and that's what's so wild, because infinity fits in our system, but our system can't work with it.

Like it's It's just I don't even know how to say that. It's just weird. It's very weird, and when they started talking about the Oh, I just totally lost it, but it was with the numbers.

I genuinely don't remember what it was, but anyway, that's fine. But yeah, just the summation and, math of infinity is just mind blowing. It's very weird.

Mind bending. Also, the, mathematician on there who was so cute, I loved him, he was, he had the adage, I guess, of the hotel, Infinity Hotel. That also was a great representation of how infinity works and just the mechanics of it, 'cause at one part, he's talking about infinity + infinity, and that's how it got into the whole infinity + 1 = 1 = 0, and it just doesn't make any fucking sense.

But he's talking about how at the Infinity Hotel, there are infinite rooms and there are infinite guests that are staying in these rooms. Well, a busload of infinity inf- infinite more people come to check in to the Infinity Hotel, and then the person at the front desk, the manager, is like, "Okay, no problem." So, then it's like, "Well, where do you put everybody?" 'Cause they can't just keep walking for infinity to get to their rooms, because all the rooms are already taken.

Yeah, like the there is no end to infinity, so you can't Even if one person shows up, you can't add them to the last put them in the last room, 'cause there's no last. So, what do you do? You have everybody move to the room that is twice their room, so if they're in room one, they move to room two, room two to room four, and so on and so forth.

And I thought that was absolutely fascinating, because then what you get are the odd numbers that are left open. So then, the infinite bus of people fit into those odd numbers, and then I like when he's just like, "Yeah, so it really sucks for the one millionth person who has to go to room two million." It was really fascinating.

I thought it was really great. So, I guess this is also a recommendation. Well yeah, definitely recommended if you want a heady kind of like, "Wow, I" You're going to leave it with more answers, but I think that's a good thing.

More answers? Or more questions than answers. Yeah, screw those answers.

But yeah, you're going to leave that with more questions than answers. But I think that's huge, 'cause Yeah, I think that's important for everything. I think it's actually more value- valuable to leave things with questions in general than answers.

If you have all the answers, then it doesn't make you want to look up more. Like immediately after that, after our discussions, too, I was like, "Well, now I want to learn more about this." And this brings up another recommendation, the book Dark Matter by Blake Crouch. I loved that book.

I am so not Typically, when I read stuff, I don't really read sci-fi, like, I don't even know what Or fiction. You don't read fiction. Yeah, I don't read fiction really.

I don't read sci-fi as much, it's just it's not what I gravitate toward, obviously. I like history and things like that, so that's or like non-fiction is mostly what I go for, which I know is the same with you, but Jeff is always finding these little nuggets of books, and they're really good, and Dark Matter was one that we read together, like separately, but together, so we could talk about it, even though I would finish I finish books very quickly, 'cause I just read very fast.

He likes to take his time with the books, which is really great, and so anyways, so we wrote this Wrote? We wrote this book. We wrote this book.

Our first novella. We read this book, and it was very fascinating, 'cause it's also Sorry, I'm jumping ahead a little bit, but in the Trip to Infinity documentary that we were just talking about, they start talking about parallel universes and, different timelines and things like that, and this is also not in a sci-fi, Like, No, it's very fact-based.

Yeah, this is just This is more the mathematics and physics of potential multiverse, or wormholes, and things like that. Yeah, and most people were saying, like, "Well, yeah, it kind of has to exist in a way, like, whether or not it actually does, there have to be…" Just watch the fucking thing, it's really interesting.

But anyways, in the book Dark Matter by Blake Crouch, he talks about this exact thing, and I know that there are other books, blah, blah, blah, but this is the only one I read, and that was so fascinating where I was like, "Well, now I want to know everything about this, even though it's not even like remotely what I typically learn, it's really interesting," 'cause thinking right now, we're in a parallel universe doing a very different podcast or living a very different life is amazing.

And little do you know, we actually walked through a parallel universe at one point. We did. It was so weird.

We went on a walk around our neighborhood one day, and it was like It was hot. It was like 80°, and we were like in shorts, shirts. I just realized how just like out there that sentence is already.

I'm like, "But, this is real, guys." But, it's real. Listen to us. But, it was seriously like we were walking and there was no reason, like we live in like a just regular neighborhood, so it's not like there was like a shop that had like ice cream or anything.

We were literally just walking down the street, and we had, mind you, just walked from the opposite direction, totally normal. We walk back, and there's this weird jettison of cold air all of a sudden. Like a cross breeze.

Out of nowhere, and then that was shortly before COVID, so we were always joking, like it was right it was right before that. It was literally right before that, and I remember that 'cause then it was like, "We just went into a parallel universe where everything's just falling apart and sucks." But, it was just interesting because, like you mentioned, it was like 80°, and then it immediately was 60°.

And then like a 40° wind. It was so weird. But like the actual, like, check the temperature, it had dropped 20°.

Temperature. No, no, no, but like actually like on the phone, like it actually dropped. Oh yeah, he literally checked it.

Yeah, it was just immediate, and It was very weird. So it's just fun to think, like we sort of talked about that, like the other version of us who is still in that, like, obviously, it's not that we think we actually moved through to a parallel universe, but the theory of it is an interesting thought experiment. Well, and then I was thinking of this Stephen King novel, I forget what it's called, but it's I mean he does he deals with this idea a lot where you just get trapped in this infinite loop.

Infinity.. And you can't break it. So I forget the name of it, but it's essentially just this family driving down the road and they should have reached their destination by now, but they're just in this car and they're just trapped there forever just on this road and then they have to break it off.

And I think that's also a theme in a couple other whatever. And that Vivarium or something, that movie was similar. Oh, yeah, I hated it, but that it freaks me out so much that is like a thing that can happen.

So, I don't know, I guess I'm glad we're okay. Ooh. What if we were in a totally different universe and it was so much better, but we have no idea and no recollection, because we passed through this other one, and now, just like my memories thing that I asked earlier, we now have false memories that are like, "Well no, we've just lived like this forever." I think about that way too often where it's like, "Am I actually Are these actually my real memories, or is this just something that's been planted in my…" Not getting conspiratorial, but just like The simulation theory, too.

Like, are we living in a simulation? Yeah. I find it fascinating.

On a long enough timeline, we would presume that we must be,. Because for there not to be a simulation that is identical to reality, [laughter] Yeah, we're going to start releasing some of our inside things. Yeah, that's an inside joke.

Now, you know. But yeah, it's all, I don't know, it's all fascinating. Anyway, This is we could keep talking about this for infinity.

Ta-da! But yeah, I just thought that would be an interesting thing. If you have any big questions that you'd like for us to solve or talk about, To solve?

Yeah. We solved the big question today. What is infinity?

Yeah. The sideways eight. Got it.

Okay. Yeah. Okay, next.

But let us know in the comments and we might read them. Probably not, 'cause some of the comments are very aggressive. But any recommendations as well.

Always looking for great documentaries. We've watched a lot. I've watched a lot a lot.

I've watched a lot a lot. So, his are, again, more gooder. More gooder, more different than mine.

I always like the historical documentaries, but I also really like the, "What is this?" Like, "What is that?" what is that? Anywho.

What are you looking at? So, our final part of this show today, possibly in the future. Oh, this is a long one.

Is recommendations, and we both listen to a podcast, JRVP, JRVP. Oh. Oh, I'm sorry.

We listen to JRVP. JRVP. We got to both say it.

Oh. JRVP. JRVP.

Junior Vice President. Why are you doing it like? I said it.

What is his name? I don't know, I was going to say Alex, but that's not it. Oh, my god, I listen to it.

Eric Aaron. Is it Aaron? Aaron?

Fuck. We got to do it like Erica. Junior Vice President.

I can't do it as sexy as Erica. Anyway, there's a podcast that we listen to, and I totally forget. Oh, Recommendation Station is what they do.

Recommendation Station. And I've been trying so hard not to say that, 'cause it's just it's so great. Anyway, just recommendations, I guess.

Besides the Trip to Infinity documentary, recommend us something, Geoff. Oh, god. Do you want me to start?

So I am reading a few books right now, No. Which is not normal for me to have multiple books going, but there have been I mentioned the Million Dollar Consultant. You're sniffing too in your mic?

Why are our noses soundy in the microphone? But anyway, the Million Dollar Consultant is interesting. It's That's not my recommendation though.

My recommendation is Bo Jackson, The Last Folk Hero. I thought you were just going to say Bo Jackson, the person. I was like, "That's cool." So, it's a newish, I think it's only a couple months old.

It's a book. Okay. Well, I could recommend the 30 for 30.

Is that a book? That is a mini-documentary, an ESPN 30-minute documentary on 30 topics. It's a whole series.

But the Bo Jackson 30 for 30 is so good. It's It definitely speaks to me differently, because I grew up watching Bo Jackson and Michael Jordan and everyone like in like the '90s, '80s, '90s, but mostly '90s. So it is different, but Bo Jackson, I like with the documentary series is so good and it shows you why people fell for him and just how he was so much better than everyone.

Like we all want to be the best. The best that ever was. Pokémon..

But he was someone at a time when Michael Jordan was the superstar who came in and superseded Michael Jordan in talent and skill, in all of the media. Like he was the it was Bo Knows. The whole premise of all of the commercials was that Bo Jackson can do anything better than anyone, and that was the entire thing.

I think we would have such a different Should we have him on the podcast? Oh, that'd be amazing. I would love Actually, that would be really cool.

He does Bo Bikes Bama and I actually considered doing that. It's like to raise money for, in Alabama, but, I've thought about doing that just to be like, "Hi." Riding next to him. "Hello." But anyway, he Michael Jordan, like you think of sort of the Michael Jordan of, and I have no question in my mind that if he didn't have such drive and determination, Bo Jackson, that when he was being tackled, he played football and baseball, top of the game in both sports, if he was tackled once and was so driven to always succeed that he ended up breaking his own leg when someone was holding it, like his strength was unmatched, but if that didn't happen and change the entire trajectory, I think we would say like the Bo Jackson of this, the Bo Jackson of that, but his story just ended.

He got injured, he came back and played baseball, but the book to all round about I recommend the 30 for 30 so highly. Oh, no. But the book is talking about folk heroes and how we don't have another like Bo Jackson, because he was at a time when we didn't all have cell phones.

We didn't all have everything recorded immediately and disseminated. So the stories of things that he did are all different. They are everyone who tells a story about Bo Jackson tells a story that is so unbelievable.

And you mean each account varies from each account? Each account varies, but it's also they're all unbelievable, that he has this larger-than-life persona that is real, it's 100% real and 100% fabricated in everyone's mind. It's both, so it's very fascinating.

I'm not too far in the book, Both. I'm not too far in the book yet, but I definitely recommend diving into Bo Jackson in general. Probably the 30 for 30's a great place to start, and the thing that I always remember and the one thing I ever showed you of Bo Jackson is him running in the outfield, playing outfield on the Royals, yeah, and there is a ball that is about to go over the fence for a home run.

He runs up the wall. He's He was running on the ground, and then he was running perpendicular to the ground, caught the ball, ran down, and threw it in, and I have never to that point and since ever seen anyone do anything like that before. And he's a big guy.

Like he's huge, and also in the 30 for 30, you learn somehow he had to have an entire gym in his house that was covered in cobwebs and dust, because everyone thought he would be taking steroids and doing things to be as enormous and like, not enormous, but just so big and strong, but he wasn't a guy to work out, which is also part of the folk story.

Wait, what was the name of the book? The book is Bo Jackson: The Last Folk Hero, I think, I believe that's, or maybe Last American Folk Hero, something like that, but yeah. Neat.

So, lots of recommendation for Bo Jackson. Yes, I can tell. Inspiration.

He's very inspiring, but My recommendation is Broad Strokes. It's a very different book. It's 15 Women Who Made Art and Made History, in that order, by Bridget Quinn.

It's a decent book. Let me recommend this book to you. It's a good book.

It's there were actually a couple female artists that I'd never even heard of before. I'm not totally finished with the book yet, but there were a couple different artists in there that I'd honestly never even heard of before, and it's really interesting. It's just very quick little excerpts about each artist that, you know, a lot of it because they are female artists in this book, that's why it's called Broad Strokes.

I do like that name. I love it, I thought it was really very smart. But because they're female artists, not a lot is known about them, so I would like more information about the artists, which is what I said to him when I was talking about the book before, like before this podcast, but then, I was like, "Well, yeah, I would like more information, but so would every other fucking person who's reading this, but it just doesn't exist, so that's for hopefully future scholars to figure out.

But it's a really good book. It's very easy to read. The author is like she does a fabulous job making it actually like palatable for people and to want to actually read it, and just enough of like her personal stuff in there to make it like interesting, I don't know.

So, that's Broad Strokes by Bridget Quinn. So, that's it for the show. Oops.

Fuck. Oh, shit. Hold on. [laughter] Damn it.

Oh, Jesus Christ. Okay, so that'll do it for this episode of Buy Amara. Like I said, I think we'll probably get back to our regularly scheduled programming next week, but if not, then you might see Geoff back.

He's playing his microphone, if you don't know what I'm talking about, go watch the video. But anyway, thank you so much for being my special guest this week, Geoff. Thank you for having me.

Oh, thank you for being here, and thank you for living here, so then I could just be like, "Hey, get in here." and that'll do it for this episode. I'm Amara Andrew, and never stop creating. And I'm Geoff Sarris.

What are you looking at? It tickles. So, our final part of this show today, possibly in the future, wow, this is a long one, is recommendations, and we both listen to a podcast, JRVP, JRVP.

Oh. Oh, I'm sorry. We listen to JRVP.

JRVP. We got to both say it. Oh.

JRVP. JRVP. Junior Vice President.

Why are you doing it like I said it. What is his name? I don't know, I was going to say Alex, but that's not it.

Oh, my god, I listen to it. Eric Aaron. Is it Aaron?

Aaron? Fuck. We got to do it like Erica.

Junior Vice President. I can't do it as sexy as Erica. Anyway, there's a podcast that we listen to, and I totally forget.

Oh, Recommendation Station is what they do. Recommendation Station. And I've been trying so hard not to say that, 'cause it's just It's so great.

Anyway, just recommendations, I guess. Besides the Trip to Infinity documentary, recommend us something, Geoff. Oh, god.

Or do you want me to start? So I am reading a few books right now. No.

Which is not normal for me to have multiple books going, but there have been I mentioned the Million Dollar Consultant, You're sniffing, too, in your mic. Why are our noses soundy in the microphone? But anyway, the Million Dollar Consultant is interesting.

It's That's not my recommendation though. My recommendation is Bo Jackson: The Last Folk Hero. I thought you were just going to say Bo Jackson, the person.

I was like, "That's cool." So, it's a newish, I think it's only a couple months old. It's a book. Okay.

Well, I could recommend the 30 for 30. Is that a book? That is a mini-documentary, an ESPN 30-minute documentary on 30 topics.

It's a whole series. But the Bo Jackson 30 for 30 is so good. It's It definitely speaks to me differently, because I grew up watching Bo Jackson and Michael Jordan and everyone like in like the '90s, '80s, '90s, but mostly '90s.

So it is different, but Bo Jackson, I like with the documentary series is so good and it shows you why people fell for him and just how he was so much better than everyone. Like we all want to be the best. The best that ever was.

Pokémon.. But he was someone at a time when Michael Jordan was the superstar who came in and superseded Michael Jordan in talent and skill, in all of the media. Like he was the It was Bo Knows.

The whole premise of all of the commercials was that Bo Jackson can do anything better than anyone, and that was the entire thing. I think we would have such a different Should we have him on the podcast? Oh, that'd be amazing.

I would love Actually, that would be really cool. He does Bo Bikes Bama and I actually considered doing that. It's like to raise money for, in Alabama, but, I've thought about doing that just to be like, "Hi." Riding next to him.

"Hello." But anyway, he Michael Jordan, like you think of sort of the Michael Jordan of, and I have no question in my mind that if he didn't have such drive and determination, Bo Jackson, that when he was being tackled, he played football and baseball, top of the game in both sports, if he was tackled once and was so driven to always succeed that he ended up breaking his own leg when someone was holding it, like his strength was unmatched, but if that didn't happen and change the entire trajectory, I think we would say like the Bo Jackson of this, the Bo Jackson of that, but his story just ended.

He got injured, he came back and played baseball, but the book to all round about I recommend the 30 for 30 so highly. Oh, no. But the book is talking about folk heroes and how we don't have another like Bo Jackson, because he was at a time when we didn't all have cell phones.

We didn't all have everything recorded immediately and disseminated. So the stories of things that he did are all different. They are everyone who tells a story about Bo Jackson tells a story that is so unbelievable.

And you mean each account varies from each account? Each account varies, but it's also they're all unbelievable, that he has this larger-than-life persona that is real, it's 100% real and 100% fabricated in everyone's mind. It's both, so it's very fascinating.

I'm not too far in the book, Both. I'm not too far in the book yet, but I definitely recommend diving into Bo Jackson in general. Probably the 30 for 30's a great place to start, and the thing that I always remember and the one thing I ever showed you of Bo Jackson is him running in the outfield, playing outfield on the Royals, yeah, and there is a ball that is about to go over the fence for a home run.

He runs up the wall. He's He was running on the ground, and then he was running perpendicular to the ground, caught the ball, ran down, and threw it in, and I have never to that point and since ever seen anyone do anything like that before. And he's a big guy.

Like he's huge, and also in the 30 for 30, you learn somehow he had to have an entire gym in his house that was covered in cobwebs and dust, because everyone thought he would be taking steroids and doing things to be as enormous and like, not enormous, but just so big and strong, but he wasn't a guy to work out, which is also part of the folk story.

Wait, what was the name of the book? The book is Bo Jackson: The Last Folk Hero, I think, I believe that's, or maybe Last American Folk Hero, something like that, but yeah. Neat.

So, lots of recommendation for Bo Jackson. Yes, I can tell. Inspiration.

He's very inspiring, but My recommendation is Broad Strokes. It's a very different book. It's 15 Women Who Made Art and Made History, in that order, by Bridget Quinn.

It's a decent book. Let me recommend this book to you. It's a good book.

It's there were actually a couple female artists that I'd never even heard of before. I'm not totally finished with the book yet, but there were a couple different artists in there that I'd honestly never even heard of before, and it's really interesting. It's just very quick little excerpts about each artist that, you know, a lot of it because they are female artists in this book, that's why it's called Broad Strokes.

I do like that name. I love it, I thought it was really very smart. But because they're female artists, not a lot is known about them, so I would like more information about the artists, which is what I said to him when I was talking about the book before, like before this podcast, but then, I was like, "Well, yeah, I would like more information, but so would every other fucking person who's reading this, but it just doesn't exist, so that's for hopefully future scholars to figure out.

But it's a really good book. It's very easy to read. The author is like she does a fabulous job making it actually like palatable for people and to want to actually read it, and just enough of like her personal stuff in there to make it like interesting, I don't know.

So, that's Broad Strokes by Bridget Quinn. So, that's it for the show. Oops.

Fuck. Oh, shit. Hold on. [laughter] Damn it.

Oh, Jesus Christ. Okay, so that'll do it for this episode of Buy Amara. Like I said, I think we'll probably get back to our regularly scheduled programming next week, but if not, then you might see Geoff back.

He's playing his microphone, if you don't know what I'm talking about, go watch the video. But anyway, thank you so much for being my special guest this week, Geoff. Thank you for having me.

Oh, thank you for being here, and thank you for living here, so then I could just be like, "Hey, get in here." and that'll do it for this episode. I'm Amara Andrew, and never stop creating. And I'm Geoff Sarris.